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[Below is an excerpt from a live loan modification teleconference]
Ryan: Yeah, so don’t try to make too much sense of it. The other thing is we sat down with some people recently and why wouldn't they do this, why this, this doesn't make sense. Man, you got me, but we can't re-evaluate or psychoanalyze the entire U.S. banking system. You know, all we can do is really try to manipulate it for our benefit right here in a good way because those are the requirements. Kind of like a driver's test. You can't pick.

Mike: I also wanted to draw everyone's attention to that experience we had last night, Ryan, where we were interviewing that one client who was -- you know, there can be a great deal of pride or a great deal of, I guess it's pride, kind of wrapped up on how much you earn and how much your FICO score and all that stuff and sometimes, particularly guys, I got to admit, have a hard time admitting that they have a hardship.

And so it's kind of a cat and mouse game and so a lot of times with clients we'll have to say listen, do you want us to help you look for your hardship or not? Because some guys will say, I'm earning pretty darn well, can you help me look for, see if I qualify for a loan modification. Yet they don’t' want to really be open to figuring out if they have a hardship because they have some kind of a pride thing about that. So, just another tidbit.

Ryan: Yeah, I don't know, the entire economy is in the toilet. Come on. You know what I mean.

Mike: Yeah, get real.

Ryan: What can you do? But anyway, thank you all for joining us here. What we're going to do is back up a little bit. We have people joining us at all different stages in the loan modification process and so what we're going to try and do on each of these calls is cover something a little bit different so that you can join us for, let's say, I don't know, two or three weeks before you hear stuff repeated.

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